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UPAPADA !

UPAPADA

So much confusion and misinterpretation about this chapter on UPAPADA is seen everywhere .

First let us examine views that is prevalent wrt upapada in todays literature .

1.Upapada is pada of 12 th from lagna .
2. upapada is actually pada of second from lagna
3. Upapada 12 th if lagna is even and 2nd if lagna is odd .

why this many versions
because PARASHARA uses the word
tanorauncharadyat syatuparudham taduchchyate

that means one that follows the tanu ;
what can be poosible analysis ,
tanu bhava what follows it ,
some say 2nd house and some say 12th house .
Some say 12th because anuchara is one that follows ie one which is behind so 12 th house .
But some argue
12th house has already risen and it is actually 2nd house that rises after First and hence 2nd house has to be taken as the one that follows .

Some indigenously say that if it even then counting is reverse so its 12 that folows and when lagna is odd counting is straight so 2nd is to be taken as anuchara .

Lets examine JAIMINI

Jaimini says
upapadam padam pitruanucharat
pitru is ninth anuchara of ninth can be 8th or 10th

But since upa means near , 10th , 8th seems very far off . how can these be upapada . so seeking Parashar shloka pitru is termed as
pa = 1 ta =6
ankanaam amato gati
so 61
61/12 remainder is 1
so pitru is actually 1st bhava .
so anuchara is again 2 nd or 12 th .

some opine upapada is actually about wife , wife is known by 7th so upapada is actually pada of 7th .

some still argue 2nd is about family kutumba and hence it is the upapada .

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So what is upapada .
Parashara says it is gauna pada .

The following analysis should interest readers as well .
and this is conclusive , readers are welcome to comment on this .
Firstly anuchara is follower . Why this word had to be used ?
Why Parashara could not have used dwitiya pada or kutumbabhava pada if he were to mean it ,
He could have also used vyayapada atleast once if it were 12th .
If it were 7th then there is abundant usage of darapada word in pArashara and jaimini so naturally these are not meant by UPAPADA .

2nd does relate to wife , but before writing entire upapada chapter Parashara mentions dhanapada word in the padadhyaya to show riches
the verse is
evam lagnapadadeva dhanadipadato dwij sthandwayam samaalokya jatakasya phalam vadet ||

after this sutra upapada chapter starts , so why would sage complicate the issue , he could have simply used dhanapadam instead of upapadam . But the fact he doesnot even use once the word dhanapada for upapada shows , upapada has some other meaning .

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Lastly when we say upagraha . it means something other than sun moon ….. shani etc . ie it is different from existing grahas ,and means dhooma chapa etc .

so in the context upapada must be different from existing 12 padas , as each pada has its own name , mantra pada , dara pada , dhana pada , etc .
Sage mentions TANU bhava pada is mukhya pada and upapada is gauna pada . and more so it deals with WIFE , married life and children etc . putra darasukh .

so what is UPAPADA ?

so upapada is tanu anuchara and pitru anuchara .
what is that follows the self ?
And this one is also one that follows FATHER .

Normally two things follow the body 1 punya 2. SON
if we take former than it becomes 9th
but Jaimini says pitru anuchara , so it cannot be 9th .
so SON follows a self body and it also fits in Pitru anuchara
putra is natural anuchara of Pita .

But are we meaning Fifth bhava pada , if Sage were to mean fifth bhava pada , he could have told simply mantrapada or sutabhavapada !

So it is not fifth bhava pada as it should be different fromexisting 12 padas to entitle to be UPAPADA .

In karaka adhyaya there is verse
sute sutam vijayate patnim saptambhavatah |
sutabhave [ not sutabhaave ] graho ya: syat so api karak uchcyate | |
which karaka
the previous linesays patnim saptambhavatah .

so the planet responsible for children sutabhav graha also qualifies as patni karak .

which is this graha
tano anucharah meaning fifth lord and
pitruanucharat – one that follows pitrukaraka is putrakaraka in charakaraka scheme ,

note the verses
tanoh anucharat adyat syat uparudham
sutabhav graho yah syat so api karak

upapadam padam pitru anucharat

upapadam padam putrakarakat yah syat so api patni karaka ucchyate .

so GRAHA ARUDHA of PUTRA KARAKA and fifth Lord is UPAPADA .

it is note worthy that in pada adhyaya graha arudha is mentioned and it will be out of place that its application has not been made in the hora shastra .
Thus upapada is Graharudha of Suta bhava .
which denotes general happiness as can be seen from RAAJyoga adhyaya , and putra dara sukha as mentioned in upapada .

Upapadam yatchubhatve bhavennruNama putradaradijam sukham ||

any affliction to upapada delays marraige , if heavly afflicted , it gives sanyasa

papagruha yute tatra papbhe papavikshite pravrajako bhavvejato daarhenothva naraha ||

then second from Upapada if it contains benefic , it gives a beautiful wife . Most importantly upapada lord if its exalted gives wife from good lineage and if it is debilitated gives a wife from otherwise .
If second from upapada is debilitated , denial of marraige takes place , if exalted there will be many beautiful wives of good qualities .

Those who have exceptionally beautiful wife can easily verify the veracity of this theory .

CONCLUSION – upapada is graharudha of charaputrakaraka and fifth LORD .
krishnarpanamastu

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14 comments on “UPAPADA !

  1. Kunal Bhardwaj
    April 15, 2011

    Dear Sir,

    Does J.Hora 5.1 calculate according to the theory given by you or by some other process….

    Regards
    Kunal Bhardwaj

    • chiraan
      April 15, 2011

      jhora takes upapada as 12 th as per popular belief .
      The above theory is not followed by any astrologers in INDIA as many modern astrologers follow english translations and they are completely faulty . Most translations are based on some older generation commentators but do not make any attempt to even consider the original sutras .

      but still graharudha can be seen from jhora , so graharudha of fifth lord and putracharakaraka can be easily located .

      • K
        June 20, 2011

        Pranaams acharya,

        Jhora takes UL as Arudha pada of 12th house as UL, which is displayed by Ax in Jhora. But If i am not wrong you are asking for Graha Arudha of the 5th Lord and CharaPutrakaraka, which is displayed as L1, Lx etc by changing the default view.

        Please let us know, if we are on right track. OR Maybe we are not correct with terminology. Kindly guide sir. The results that i got good were with A5 and not L5 and could be circumstantial, in case I am wrong.

        Regards
        K

      • chiraan
        June 25, 2011

        a5 is panchamaarudha ……………….. pada of fifth house ………..w e should see fifth lord ….arudha ………..

  2. manu
    April 18, 2011

    Hi Chiraan

    If this is correct than it is indeed an excellent observation. I am posting the birth data of a girl who became a window at very young age. The husband passed away in a sudden accident about 7-8 months ago
    Nov 7 1984
    5.34 AM
    Delhi
    Now according to the present knowledge of UL. Her UL falls in the Capricorn sign in the 4rth house with lord Saturn exalted in the lagna. The 2nd from UL is not aspected by any planet. Saturn is combust though.
    But if I take the graha arudha of 5th lord falls in 9th house Gemini. Aspected by mars n Jupiter. The lord mercury is not so happy in the sign of mars. And mars dhristi 2nd from Gemini. Now this does make sense. Your comments would be appreciated esp on the calculation of graham arudha of 5th lord. I am using jhora

    Regards
    Manu.

    • chiraan
      April 19, 2011

      Yes i have a different chart for this native , mars is also exalted , and it aspects second from Upapada lagna , both mars and saturn aspect the upapada second house without any benefic aspect . lord of the second house from upapada is also aspected by three malefics , sun sat and mars .
      Kalatra karaka is in house mars and seventh from venus is afflicted by rahu in taurus .

      if grahaarudha of putra karaka chara mercury is also in cancer . dara pada is also cancer .
      most importantly , seventh from atmakaraka venus in trimshamsa has mars .
      and venus again is in the mars house .
      in kaalchakra dasha
      the loss has come in gemini dasha and taurus antardasha .

      In yogini dasha
      too it is sankata period
      and vimshottari it is debilitated dasha .
      rahu caused this event in all manner because it has least ashtakvarga .
      From all aspects the kalatra is afflicted ,. much remedies should have been taken before marriage . and during debilotated dasha , in such situations it is always advised to cross the periods and then marry . BUt all this is post events . But it should make others careful that remedies must be done ,, when an astrologer points towards one .

      on graha arudha , it is said that stronger rashi should be taken aquarius is stronger than capricorn so as aquarius is fifth from saturn and gemini is also fifth from aquarius . so it is arudha .

  3. BHK
    April 20, 2011

    Hi,

    I have a question related to upapada. I have Jupiter in debilitation in capricorn in 2nd from upapada aspected by venus and mercury . However the upapada is aspected by exalted Saturn. What could be predicted from this?

    details Male… TOB: 23:30
    POB: Bangalore
    DOB:02 Sep 1985

    • chiraan
      April 23, 2011

      it seems you have not understood the article well , your upapada is not saggitarius , it is aries , and there is rahu in upapada and aspected by saturn , second from upapada is aspected by jupiter indicating a good wife.

  4. K
    June 6, 2011

    Pranaams Acharya,

    Application of this concept on some charts exceeded my expectations. Many thanks for teaching this to us. Karakamsha also works very well. But i am still learning it deeper.

    Regards
    K

  5. K
    June 16, 2011

    Pranaams Acharya,

    Taking the discussion further, When we take grahaarudha of charaputrakaraka, how should we calculate amongst the two ownerships of the houses ?

    Also when do we delineate in the same chart whether we must take graha arudha of the 5th lord OR Charaputrakaraka.?

    Regards
    K

    • K
      June 20, 2011

      Sir till now have been looking via graharuda of 5th lord only. But curious on this one. Lets say for e.g. Jup is PK. Now to calculate grahaarudha, from which house do we take its ownership, is it from Saggi OR Pisces. Does the mooltrikona take priority here ?

      And how to determine which arudha will be final in say of matters .. Will it be graharudha of 5th lord or charaputrakaraka. Do we see shadbala, vimsopaka etc to determine stronger amongst the two ??

      Regards

      • chiraan
        June 25, 2011

        whichever rashi is stronger ….sagii and pisces ……strength of rashi to be calculated as per jaimini ………..

        vimsopaka is for seeing dasa results only ………when dasa antradasa lords interact it is on the basis of vimsopaka …….the quality of result in dasa [ whether one will be world famous or world famous in INDIA , or just world famous in galli boL .......] all this vimsopaka determines ………..whether fame is actually being enjoyed to the full or meagre is known by placement and shadbala ………………… how much struggle is required to get fame is known by proximity to sun ……………….. whether continuously there or not depends on placement of lord of the bhava concerned ………… karaka determines factors instrumental to give fame ……………..

    • chiraan
      June 25, 2011

      both 5th lord and putrakaraka act as upapada ……. 5th lord gives marriage ,wifes’ nature …………charaputra karaka gives delays obstacles and breaks etc ….

      • K
        July 28, 2011

        Pranaams Acharya,

        How do we deduce 2nd, 3rd etc marriages from Upapada and 7th Rasi/Navamsa ? More importantly, how to calculate Graha arudha of such a relationship.

        Regards
        K

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